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When we talk about “reach,” we usually collapse different things into one word. Henry Jenkins would say that’s the mistake. Reach isn’t just how many people paid or how big the opening weekend was — it’s about circulation and reuse.

Avatar has enormous broadcast reach and experiential impact: millions of people saw it, felt it, and moved on. But it has very little participatory reach. It doesn’t generate language, gestures, memes, or practices people can easily pick up and use. It’s sticky, not spreadable.

Cult films like Paris Is Burning are the opposite. Almost no economic reach, but massive semiotic reach. People quote it, perform it, borrow its language, build identities with it. It survives because audiences keep doing things with it.

So the issue isn’t that Avatar has “no cultural impact.” It’s that we’ve been trained to equate impact with constant participation. Avatar is a mass ritual you experience and leave. Paris Is Burning is a toolkit you carry forward. Different kinds of reach, different afterlives.

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I remember being surprised when I first found out that Avatar was the highest grossing movie of all time, given how little anyone ever talked about it, but after the Way of Water came out and I went to watch it in theaters, the reason was pretty obvious, and it's exactly what you say here. Of course a movie whose primary appeal is how amazing the visuals are is going to do well in theaters, where you get the visuals in their full glory, but then have a significantly reduced cultural impact afterwards, since no one can see it in theaters anymore.

I have one criticism of your statistical analysis, though: Google searches for "Avatar" are a bad way to gauge the lingering cultural impact of the movie, since the search can refer to a bunch of other things, including a totally separate popular franchise. Such is the nature of movies with a one-word title.

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